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Oct 11, 2012 10:30pm EDT
is the romney/ryan ticket is not credible on the issue of the war that we are fighting. >> no, they're not. >> we have 68,000 people right now, paul ryan embarrassed himself on afghanistan tonight in a way he embarrassed himself on no other issue. he did not understand the question well enough to know that he was making a mistake because he's just learned this for the test. he doesn't understand any of it. i find it terrifying. >> i think that he absolutely blew it in terms of afghanistan. i think even when he said marines in benghazi, when marines are at embassies. and, i mean, he also bent the truth. he's not at the level of liar as romney. he's a fibber. growing to be a liar. romney's an accomplished liar. but i think that clearly mr. biden gave facts. there was nothing they could refute. and i think he was fiery and to the point. i think ryan held his right wing position. he did not do the chameleon thing that romney did. >> that's true. >> i think it will hurt him in the end and hurt romney in the end and i think when it came especially to foreign affairs, it's good it was in a colleg
MSNBC
Oct 11, 2012 8:00pm EDT
of a numbers guy. >> the poll numbers for romney and ryan soaring after the first presidential debate. democrats openly counting on joe biden tonight to stop that republican momentum. >> osama bin laden is dead and general motors is arrive. >> the 2012 vice presidential debate starts right now. >>> happy debate night, everybody. the best television series of 2011 was the republican primary debates. there were 1 million of them. they played to huge audiences week after week and never disappointed. now it is october 2012 and the most compelling thing on television anywhere in the country is once again the debates. only now there are only two candidates at a time and the stakes are way higher. i'm rachel maddow. here on our msnbc headquarters in new york. i'm joined by ed schultz, reverend al sharpton, chris hayes, steve schmidt. lawrence o'donnell is our man in the spin room tonight. the one and only chris matthews is at centre college in danville, kentucky, the site of tonight's debate. chris, is this unusually high stakes for a vice presidential debate? >> well, it's great being with
MSNBC
Oct 12, 2012 4:00pm EDT
romney/ryan on the 47%. >> these are the folks who talk about 47% of the american people being unwilling to take responsibility. it's about time governor romney takes some responsibility. >> biden had the crowd fired up after a debate performance many wish the president had given. one in which he outlined a blistering attack on his opponents, delivering a flurry of punches from the opening bell. >> romney said, no, let detroit go bankrupt. we moved in and helped people refinance their homes. governor romney said, no, let foreclosures hit the bottom. but it shouldn't be surprising for a guy who says 47% of the american people are unwilling to take responsibility for their own lives. my friend recently in a speech in washington said 30% of the american people are takers. these people are my mom and dad, the people i grew up with, my neighbors. they pay more effective tax than governor romney pays in his federal income tax. >> indeed. biden's performance was so impressive, the other party was forced to admit that they had taken a hiding. with even mitt romney singing joe's praises today in
MSNBC
Oct 11, 2012 9:00am EDT
. >> governor romney has embraced the ryan budget. well, he has. he's gone back and said, no, he agrees with it. i just want to make sure that, when i say these things, that i don't have the congressman saying, no, no, no, i don't have that position, or that's not the governor's position. >> expect biden to be more pointed and tough than the president was. the question, how aggressive will he be? he doesn't want to come off as unlikable or condescending. one thing biden has going for him, his, quote, unquote, gaffes. in a new pew poll, voters narrowly say they expect ryan to win tonight's debate in a 40-34 margin. although ryan is trying to down play expectations. >> joe biden has been on this stage many times before, and this is my first time. sure, it's a nervous situation because joe biden is one of the most experienced debaters we have in modern politics. but the achilles heel he has is president obama's record. >> and ryan is dealing with unrealistic pressure. the base of his party thinks of biden the same way democrats thought about dan quayle. they consider him a joke. and republican exp
MSNBC
Oct 11, 2012 4:00pm EDT
to clear any confusion about the romney/ryan ticket. >> i'm a pro-life candidate, i'll be a pro-life president. >> our position is consistent and hasn't changed. >> he can't clear up confusion on his own budget. >> i don't have the time -- it would take me too long to go through all the math. >> oh, brother. just spin already. >> i just got to ask what's your personal best? >> 1under three. >> holy smoke. >> i stand by what i said, whatever it was. >>> we are pumped up, fired up, and jacked up with just hours until tonight's first and only face-off between vice president joseph biden and vice presidential nominee paul ryan. and what was once regarded as a popcorn side show has taken on far greater significance in the wake of the president's less than scintillating performance last week. democrats are anxious, republicans are hungry for a surge, and as ryan and biden take the stage tonight, they have a chance to influence this election at a volatile moment. and the president himself knows he's got to push harder against his ever-shifting rival. speaking just moments ago at a mass
MSNBC
Oct 11, 2012 1:00pm EDT
. what are the expectations coming from the romney campaign for paul ryan's big night tonight? here what happens his senior adviser, dan senor told chuck todd this morning, when it was really cold. >> he has to make the case about the choice in the election, all right? things have been rough over the last four years and it's incumbent on president obama and vice president biden to explain what exactly has happened over the last four years 23 million americans out of work, 47 million americans on food stamps 1 in 6 americans in poverty have them explain the rational for why they deserve a second term. there is a choice as it relates to the budgets, they are running on the romney/ryan agenda. governor romney laid out a plan, his five-point plan for the middle class. >> nbc's ron mott has been covering congressman ryan throughout and traveling with him and interviewing dan senor as well, and joins me now here. you've been with ryan camp. what is the mood? they must have gotten pumped up. >> totally. >> by the romney performance. now there's a whole expectation game for their own performance
MSNBC
Oct 11, 2012 12:00pm EDT
version of the paul ryan will show up remain nearly impossible. just as mitt romney's staff wiped their hard drives after leaving the massachusetts's governor's office romney has done the saipe thing to his running mate's motherboard, reset to factory settings. this was the original model -- >> specifically, on spending, our budget spends $4.8 trillion less than the majority's budget. today we would have to set aside $56 trillion invested at treasury rates to make sure the programs are solvent. we're going to start bit cutting $6.2 trillion in spending. >> but at a product demo august 11 th rhine version 2.0 was foud to be significantly altered. >> he's the next vice president of the united states. >> look right here. >> just three days later, paul ryan suddenly had fewer numbers and fewer answers. >> the budget plan that you're now supporting would get to balance when? >> well, there are different -- the budget plan that mitt romney is supporting gets us down to 20% of gdp government spending by 2016. >> i get that but what about balance? >> i don't know exactly when it balances
MSNBC
Oct 12, 2012 9:00am EDT
the romney/ryan ticket for making this an issue. >> one of the few rabbit holes that ryan got sucked into was afghanistan and though ryan proved that he had knowledge about the war, he wanted to commit more troops to an open-ended deployment in what is an unpopular war. >> we are sending fewer people to the front to fight them. >> that's right. because that's the afghan responsibility. we've trained them. >> not in the east. >> let's move -- let move to another war. >> not in the east? >> it's the most dangerous place in the world. >> that's right. >> you would rather americans being sent in to do the jobs. >> we are already sending more americans in to do the jobs. >> afghans to do the job. afghans to do the job. >> there were tense moments like that, including where biden came close to channelling lloyd benson's famous attack on dan quayle. >> you can cut tax rates by 20% and still preserve -- >> not mathematically possible. >> it is possible and it's been done before. >> it has never been done before. >> it has never been -- >> jack kennedy lowered -- >> oh, be now you're jack ken
MSNBC
Oct 13, 2012 12:00pm EDT
that paul ryan and mitt romney are stumping there today. >> i'm curious, mike, why the president isn't able to just stay in the white house. is it because the oval office duties beckon too much? or does he go to virginia because he wants to do a campaign stop here and there? >> reporter: i think it's got a lot to do with it. it's a two-fer. there are no public events on the president's schedule in virginia. there were no events in nevada we were told about. but he did go to hoover dam, has photo ops. so it's a side benet. it's like a camp, a retreat where they can concentrate on what they need to do tuesday night. >> i wonder if he's planning like a five guys outing, you know? >> reporter: could be. he loves his burgers. no questions. >> before i let you go, mike, can i just ask you, the ten or of things going into this debate prep? how stressful do you sense the white house is about this when you combine both the president's performance last week and then joe biden's this? maybe it picked up a little bit they think with joe biden. >> i think there's a sense of relief that biden did what he
MSNBC
Oct 11, 2012 5:00pm EDT
. the romney/ryan team has other plans in place of medicare which covers people who have retired, it would offer them vouchers. vouchers. imagine some 80-year-old to get on that bus somewhere and go try to find someone to sell them a health insurance policy. good luck, granny. that's not the whole of it. listen to romney when you're not supposed to be listen pentagon the best time to listen to him is when he doesn't think you're listening. saying they have simply failed to take personal responsibility for their lives. nice talk. listen to romney say out loud if you have a pre-existing medical condition and don't have insurance, well, that's your problem because that was your decision. that's how he talks. the same with the automobile industry. romney -- obama stuck his neck out to rescue it for all kinds of good reasons. his challenger said let it take bankruptcy. these are the drastic differences these debates should debate and they better do it. i'm joined by john heilemann, former rnc chair michael steele, my kind of republican. that will kill them. and politico's j. mar, jonathan mart
MSNBC
Oct 11, 2012 6:00pm EDT
will and it should. ryan and romney are pushing a radical remaking of the social contract that americans have relied on for many decades. it's a investigation that includes a budget where 62% of the cuts come from the poor. cuts to medicaid, cuts to food stamps, pell grants, all while cuts to the defense department and oil industry continue as usual. ryan will have to defend that record tonight and he'll have to defend comments like these. >> before too long we could become a society that we were never, ever intended to be. we could become a society where the majority of americans are makers, not takers. they believe the american idea. only 30% want the welfare state. >> takers and makers. it's a distorted view of the american people and a deeply cynical one and it will be challenged tonight by another view. >> we have a fundamentally different values set than these guys do. we believe america does well. america's always prospered when hard work is rewarded. when everyone has a fair shot. everyone plays by the same rules. everyone gets a fair shake. where everyone is held accountable, rich and poor.
MSNBC
Oct 11, 2012 3:00pm EDT
/biden and romney/ryan. last week it was the president's team facing high expectations. this week it is paul ryan who is expected to perform well. last week the stakes were monumental for the romney team who desperately needed a strong performance to overcome weeks of mistakes, bad polls and republican hand wringing. this week it is team obama facing high stakes to stop the bleeding and quiet the lamenting of freaked out democrats who were disappointed with last week's apathetic performance. the stylistic shoe may be on the other foot as well. ryan like obama can come across as cerebral and distant. one last thing, while the pressure is on for biden, a lot is at stake for ryan too. while he is well known by inside the belt way crowd, the national audience is just getting to know ryan. his unnecessary bending of the truth sullied his reputation. this is take two for ryan to make a favorable impression and to preserve his own future regardless of whether the romney ryan ticket. this is happening in kentucky, a state known for derby, bourbon and one of the greatest fighters, muhammad ali. we'll have
MSNBC
Oct 13, 2012 3:00pm EDT
daughter liza and sam and i've got other ones, charlie. >> like paul ryan, mitt romney also in ohio today. he is holding a pair of rallies, an indication of how critical the buckeye state and its 18 electoral votes are. president obama in virginia where he'll be preparing for the next campaign. the obama campaign has another tv ad out. it's narrated by none other than morgan freeman, the voice of vee a and the voice of god. >> every president inherits challenges. few have faced so many. four years later, our enemies have been brought to justice, our heros are coming home. assembly lines are humming again. >> and before you start sending your e-mails, the morgan freeman, of course, played god in "bruce almighty," just so you know. >>> the president landed in virginia a few moments ago. we're told he has no public meeting plans. kristen welker joining us. krist kristen, good saturday to you. >> good saturday to you. >> the president hunkering down for debate prep. what are you hearing about what he plans to do a little bit differently this time? >> reporter: well, craig, after that first de
MSNBC
Oct 8, 2012 2:00pm EDT
with the ryan campaign. he joins us by phone. obviously, ron, we see which direction the romney/ryan ticket would like to at least take this week? >> reporter: claktly. hey there, tamron. hope you can hear me over the rumble of the bus. we're heading into detroit. i'm sure the campaign could pack more stuff into the schedule today. in addition to the rally if in toledo where you heard paul ryan, he has three events around the detroit area. this is romney's old stomping ground from his younger days, and they're not quite ready to give up on a michigan where they think they can make a play. he's on his way to an education roundtable and a fund-raiser and another big rally tonight planned. another thing unusual about his speech in toledo was the fact it was much longer than usual. he went 33 minutes or so. usually we get a15, 20 minutes out of him and he doesn't spend a lot of time talking about foreign policy. because the crowd saw governor romney's speech at the virginia military institute, paul ryan wanted to talk a little bit about that and perhaps giving him a little more of a chance to g
MSNBC
Oct 12, 2012 11:00am EDT
performance? did ryan help maintain the romney momentum? >> this is a classic case where both sides of the aisle people saw what they wanted to see. >> joining me now is brad woodhouse, communications director of the democrat national committee. thanks for joining us today. >> thanks, richard. >> the vice president is being hammered by people who say he was laughing inappropriately, very energetic certainly. smirking, interrupting frequently. let's play some of those moments for our viewers, first. >> under a romney administration, we will have credibility on this issue. >> vice president biden? >> it's incredible. >> thank heaven which have these sanctions in place. >> oh, god. >> it's been discredited by six other studies. over 100 criminal investigations. >> martha. >> go ahead. >> martha, look. >> here is some of what the republicans are saying about the vice president's performance last night. >> reminded me of al gore in 2000 walking over and standing by president bush sort of getting in his space. >> i don't know if he thought this was a joke but he was laughing a lot. >> it
MSNBC
Oct 12, 2012 12:00pm EDT
the rejuvenated romney walloped them. >> what was your assessment of paul ryan overall? we're going to get to specific sound but in terms of paul ryan and his debate skills last night, what -- how do you grade limb? >> i think what people are looking for when they are going to watch a debate like this, especially a young -- relatively young untested vp candidate like paul ryan, new to the national scene does had he cross the threshold and appear presidential enough. i think he met that test. didn't embarrass himself in any way, didn't have a major gaffe. i don't think you would have come away if you were an independent or undecided thinking this guy is unready in some large respect to be president of the united states. i think he did what he had to do. i think joe biden did what he had to do. he went out and, you know, delivered the obama message in the way that i'm sure team obama wished that president had the week earlier. and i think you're right, he gave a little bit of a road map about what the president is going to do when he comes out next week. >> that was definitely a front-loaded
MSNBC
Oct 13, 2012 4:00pm EDT
a short time ago we heard from mitt romney's running mate paul ryan saying we're going to bring america back to number one in manufacturing. that stuff resonates in a state like this. but more than anything else, what the effort is this weekend, it's the fifth consecutive day that mitt romney has in one form or another spent some time in the state of ohio as it shows just how critical they pugh view this state, with the 270 electoral votes. it's not impossible. but much more difficult to get there without this state. i spoke to a top adviser in the campaign this week who said to me if you go through the three most challenging states, three of the most critical states this done, florida, ohio, and virginia, they think they have the best shot at florida, second best at ohio, this adviser items me, and number three is virginia. but clearly, this is a state that no republican has won the white house without it. no president has won the white house since john f. kennedy. >> that surprises me. you would think that second maybe virginia and then ohio. i guess that speaks to how confident the c
MSNBC
Oct 11, 2012 2:00pm EDT
the lies that have been told by romney and ryan. i want to play what congressman ryan said at the rnc, a line that drew a lot of attention when he talked about a gm plant that he blamed the president for closing. let me play that moment from the rnc. >> when he talked about change, many people liked the sound of it, especially in janesville where we were about to lose a major factory. right there at that plant candidate obama said, i believe that if our government is there to support you, this plant will be here for another 100 years. that's what he said in 2008. well, as it turned out, that plant didn't last another year. >> mark, there are even conservatives who refer to that speech as being one of the most dishonest that they had seen. chris is talking about bringing the fight. how do you keep from going back and forth? will the moderator have to be the quote, unquote, fact checker in this? >> sometimes the best moderators stay away. i think it's incumbent on vice president biden. we saw president obama try to correct the record the next day after last week's debate, but that wasn'
MSNBC
Oct 11, 2012 11:00am EDT
to the facts. but expect paul ryan to come out and lie just as much as mitt romney did last week. that's what i expect. >> the swing voters as well as the base, to they expect more about substance or style? >> first of all, no one in this country has made the case that vice president joe biden has done a bad job. the country knows who this man is. they know his background, they know he didn't go to the united states senate to be a millionaire. he went there to work on behalf of the people. so there's a lot of people that will expect a lot out of joe biden because they know who he is. but he'll be presenting the case that where we were and where we're going is great for america. and there is absolutely no question that if the chairman of the house budget committee, if he's all about numbers, he's not going to be able to deny what skr joe biden will say tonight. >> will we see a lot of zingers? >> what's a zinger, a fact? a fact of what the country wants, a fact of what we've been able to accomplish, the automobile loan? yesterday on the stump, paul ryan was trying to make the case that they're f
MSNBC
Oct 13, 2012 2:00pm EDT
presidential debate, and this is why mitt romney and paul ryan are spending so much time in the buckeye state. 51%, 45%. they are both there today. we're going to listen to mitt romney live in just a moment. topping our political headlines, though, within the hour, president obama is scheduled to land in newport, virginia, he's on his way to williamsburg where he's preparing for tuesday. he used the radio and internet address to focus on the economy, touting the impact of the bailout. >> to let detroit go bankrupt. i bet on american work and ingenuity and three years later that bet is paying off in a big kwa. today auto sales are higher thain even about been in three years. gm is back. ford and chrysler are growing again. we've created a quart ore of a a million new jobs right here in america. >> mitt romney holding a rally in ohio. this hour. it's about to get under way. in fact, we're going get a live update from the campaign trail in just a moment. in their weekly address, republicans also talking about the economy. it was delivered by oklahoma congressional candidate mark wayne mullet. >>
MSNBC
Oct 7, 2012 3:00pm EDT
the romney/ryan campaign raised last night in milwaukee. we look at how the money will get put to work. topping the political headlines, a whole new round of fire on the sunday morning talk shows over -- the debate. tell you how nbc's "meet the press," senior obama campaign adviser robert gibbs conceded the president could have done better and also took aim at governor romney. >> it's not rocket science to believe that the president was disappointed in the expectations that he has for himself. but, look, i think part of that was because as i said earlier, we met a new mitt romney. speaker gingrich was pretty eloquent in running during the primaries in saying that mitt romney will say absolutely anything to get elected. >> former speaker and republican candidate newt gingrich said this morning that president obama has no excuse. >> the president of the united states had 90 minutes. now, if he had done his homework and actually prepared and actually studied romney, why didn't he say it? i mean why didn't he take romney head-on? the job of the president is supposed to be competent and be
MSNBC
Oct 9, 2012 1:00pm EDT
/biden team you'll get another four years like the last four years with the romney/ryan team, a real recovery with more jobs for everybody. >> now politico is reporting today that ann romney and tagg his son, one of his sons did an intervention to try to save the campaign if you will and let mitt be mitt and get the candidate to talk more about himself, talk more emotionally to give the foreign policy speech. in pushing back against some of the staff. can you help us out on that? what is the -- your perspective about it? >> i saw the story. it's a silly little story. there's no truth to it. we're focused on big things. yesterday the governor gave a speech where he talked about some of the very real foreign policy challenges facing us. he talked about building 15 ships a year so we can build up our navy. he talked about the importance of reforming our foreign assistance and linking it to positive outcomes. he talked about stopping iran's reckless pursuit for a nuclear weapon. these are the issues and the challenges that we're focused on. we're not distracted by some of the nonsense stories tha
MSNBC
Oct 12, 2012 2:00pm EDT
romney and ryan support preserving tax cuts for all the capital gains and carried interest. everything else, my friend, your mortgage interest tax deduction and everything else is on table. >> okay. if that was the high point of joe biden talking about the economy last night we have a long way to go. americans still don't believe the stimulus worked. we're dealing with the weak economy. that's reality to people. >> but we also know , jonathan, let me jump in here. congressman ryan, they heard that he asked for stimulus money. are democrats now fired up? we were in kentucky live. we talked to people all day, talked to people this morning. i found it intriguing that people have been criticizing joe biden. we clearly know what his mission was. i even said we should play the music from "mission: impossible" and show his face. his commission was clear, he opened the envelope, he read it, it get get 'em and he did. obviously conservatives would not like that tone, not like that congressman ryan was interrupted, i believe they said like 17 times. who's counting. the bottom line, david, was it
MSNBC
Oct 8, 2012 11:00pm EDT
for their families. in order to cut taxes for the wealthy. the romney ryan budget would make it even tougher on hard-working americans. >> that sistercy moan campbell speaking at the democratic convention last month. her group, nuns on the bus, will kick off another leg of their anti-pof tir tour. this time making stops in ohio. meanwhile, mitt romney still can't give a straight answer on exactly what his plan is for the wealthy. he campaigned on giving the mega rich a tax cut. his website backs him up. yet at the debate, romney claimed the opposite. >> first of all, i don't have a $5 trillion tax cut. i'm not looking for a $5 trillion tax cut. let me repeat what i said, i'm not in favor after $5 trillion tax cut. that's not my plan. >> a romney's plan could cost the country $5 trillion over the next five years. his friends at fox news says he doesn't have to explain his fuzzy math. here is chris wallace depending romney's flip-flop to o'malley. >> the president says that mitt romney is proposing a $5 trillion tax cut. that's not true. >> kras, wait a minute here. the governor -- i mean, former gove
MSNBC
Oct 9, 2012 11:00am EDT
think part of reminding people about big bird does, how ridiculous the rhetoric from the romney/ryan campaign is, but also the idea that, so, you're going to cut something that we know is effective and works and helps our kids prepare for the future, but you're going to continue to give subsidies to big oil? that doesn't make sense. so, i do think that there is a seriousness to this conversation and i think biden is the kind of guy who can bring that right balance to the debate. >> all right, so, one thing in an interview, congressman ryan did talk about his nerves playing into effect for thursday. take a look. >> joe biden's one of the best debaters we've seen in modern politics. he's been doing this for 40 years. he ran for president twice, he's the sitting vice president. it's my first time on the national stage like this, so i'm playing -- >> nervous? >> sure, of course i'm a little nervous. everybody's nervous about something like this. i bet joe biden's a little nervous. >> joe, i want to ask you about this. he will be a formidable opponent as far as knowing the inside baseball
MSNBC
Oct 14, 2012 2:00pm EDT
, doubling gas prices, no coherent energy strategy, it's clear to me that the romney-ryan ticket had the only blueprint to get us out of this mess. we're not going to -- four more years of the same policies will get four more years of the same results. >> i think what we learned about paul ryan is he is as good as his boss at obfuscating what their plan is. he could not answer how he was going to pay for this $5 trillion lowering of the tax rates. he couldn't list a single deduction, a single loophole, that they would close, except he said we would go to congress. now, what they're saying is that we're not going to tell you, we're going to go to congress and, surprise, we'll see it after the election. it's the same stuff that -- >> where's the obama plan? he's had four years. he can't even get a budget passed. >> why? because you have a congress that has signed pledges not to cooperate. >> the obama budget was killed 535 to 0 because it raises the debt by $7 trillion. >> that is not true. >> yes, it does. >> we have got to in these final few weeks try to reach some resolution about this reven
MSNBC
Oct 14, 2012 3:00pm EDT
. >> paul ryan was trying to praise romney's career as governor in massachusetts. and biden said, wait a minute he's not even competing there, he can't carry his own state. and the republicans have been making a lot about his bipartisanship. he was able to get along with the democratic legitimate slate stur. the democrats in the legislate stur were far more cooperative with the republican governor than the republicans are today with the democratic president. >> let's turn to the state we can't seem to talk enough about, ohio, the buckeye state. both candidates doing anything they can to win over specifically michael smerkonish, working-class voters in ohio. for romney, that's about calling out obama for being weak on china, this is yesterday. >> we're going to do this, we're going to make sure when people cheat and china has been cheating, we're not going to let it go on. i'm not going to pass it off. on day one i will label china a currency manipulator and we're going to get serious when we make sure that people don't cheat when it comes to trade. >> is that a message that's going to
MSNBC
Oct 8, 2012 11:00am EDT
in the toledo area. obviously, ohio's an important state to the romney-ryan ticket. we expect paul ryan to stick to the standard substance with the five-point plan to put the middle class back to work and also going by the performance last week of governor romney. particular has a couple of events. one here in the at least area and then we're heading off to the detroit area for an afternoon event and don't expect to see him until thursday and sets up the debate against vice president biden and the past couple of days we asked how much is he prepared to meet someone with more experience. he says he knows that vice president biden will come in aggressively and maybe particularly because of the president's performance last wednesday's event in denver and he is reading briefing books, talking about issues around the country and around the world. paul ryan knows that this is a very big week for him. perhaps the biggest of his entire political career. people need to see the american voters watching that debate on thursday and see him in the vice presidential light and probably not enough for him to be
MSNBC
Oct 11, 2012 6:00am EDT
, comparing with that of romney and ryan. steve. >> so romney and ryan do have somewhat different plans. we talked a lot in the debate last week about taxes. this is the spending side of the equation. to kind of lay out apropos conversations we had earlier in the show about what ryan and romney each believe about spending, let's start with kind of an overview of where the three people would like to bring spending over the next ten years. the 20-year historical average is at about 21%,ed red line that you see across there. obama would like to have spending end up at 23%. romney and ryan both want it down at 20%. so there's a clear difference, and they all agree on where it should go. what gets interesting is as you dig into the detail of what gets cut, and you'll see some very, i think, fascinating differences among these guys. so on social security, as you heard president obama say in the last debate, the three guys are actually in the same place. they want to spend the same amount on social security in the next ten years. when you get to medicare, romney and ryan are in the same place, but
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Oct 13, 2012 7:00am EDT
friday afternoon. fortunately no one was hurt. >>> mitt romney and paul ryan are spending a second straight day in ohio after rallying voters in lancaster friday. >> it's good to be back. and this is our -- this is our comeback team here. and this is our comeback team here in ohio. and we're going to bring back america. >> now, governor romney will be making stops today in portsmouth and lebanon. congressman ryan will visit youngstown. president obama and vice president biden have no scheduled public events today. joining me now for more front page politics white house correspondent for the hill, amy barnes and white house reporter for "the washington post," david nakamura. you guys are becoming a great habit good morning. aim i'll begin with you. we've had about 36 hours or so to digest the vice presidential debate. is there any consensus on whether it might move the needle in the presidential election? >> it didn't really change the trajectory so much. but i think it did stop the bleeding. i kept hearing from democrats all week. they were frustrated how the race was going since t
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Oct 9, 2012 4:00pm EDT
, meaning the very real personal costs of the things that romney and ryan are talking about? and i think that's part of what the president needs to be doing. i think it's what the campaign is doing here in this ad is to say, if you're going to make this cut, let's talk about the reality of what that's going to mean for people. you want to, you know, go invade iran, okay. are we all ready to see more caskets coming into dover, delaware? are we really ready to send men and women in uniform to another front in the war? you're going to make all of these cuts and how is that going to add up? it's not going to add up. here are the places where those cuts are going to have to come from. i think bringing it back to real terms, because, again, i think romney won't have the answer essentially. david is right. he has 9 top line -- >> i don't agree with you. romney's answer is very clear, ask me on the 7th of november. >> his answer is always no, it's not. >> exactly. >> because i said to. >> karen, david, and richard, thank you both. thank you all. next, paul ryan can't stand the heat and it may on
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Oct 11, 2012 10:00am EDT
and to defend romney's record. but if this ticket were to lose, paul ryan has a long future in bomb ticks or he certainly would like to hope that and i think that's a fair idea. and, therefore, he wants to come out of this with his integrity intact and with his own positions intact. and i think biden will play that like a wedge trying to either get ryan to abandon his own record or to abandon his own record or to embrace romney and then he'll go after that. >> there's one question that in every vice presidential debate i think is the key question for a lot of voters out there, and that is this guy's going to be a heartbeat away from the presidency. am i comfortable with that. and we can have a little fun with it, maybe you saw these pictures from "time" magazine today. but i think when you see paul ryan and these are pictures of him working out, it does speak a little bit to what has been written a lot about, which is the generational divide. and experience divide, as well. either really on on the surface or subconsciously, do you think that's a big deal here? >> i don't. i think both of these
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Oct 14, 2012 12:00pm EDT
think we'll hear lots about the future. >> speaking of details, mitt romney and paul ryan are pressed for their plans. specifically the 20% across the board tax cut. why are they being so vague and will governor romney get specific at this debate? >> you know, it's funny. it cuts both ways. i think the reason they're not going specific is because they don't want to be attacked. they put the romney and ryan ticket on the defense. but i've heerd governor romney say this. he says i want to work in a bipartisan way. i want to work with democrats on capitol hill. i want to do what george w. bush did with no child left behind. that's to allow the congress -- that is to allow the legislative branch to be a part of the process. and thus in the process create or draft a piece of legislation that we can all work with. so i think it's a combination of both answers, alex. >> president obama had tough reviews following the first debate. what do you think is the greatest challenge in round two? >> the white house said to make adjustments. i think it's to make the adjustments without overcorrecting
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Oct 12, 2012 6:00am EDT
attempt to balance the budget. and what ryan and romney are calling is outrageously stupid. what the president is doing is inadequate. >> okay. al? >> good description. nothing partisan about that description. you know, al, the governor brings up a point. i'm not sure that i agree with how he describes the two sides, but i will say that when joe biden -- let's just take these two issues right here. to talk about the stupidity of this campaign. joe biden won't even talk about raising entitlement -- your date of eligibility for entitlements one year despite the fact when fdr set the life expectancy at 62, we're now up, 79, 80, something like that. and you've got three people working for every one person getting these entitlements. and then on the republican side, this $5 trillion tax cut, the numbers don't add up. it doesn't matter what you do. the numbers don't add up. nor does the administration's belief that if you just tax rich guys, you're going to take care of the deficit. it's just -- it's nonsense. >> joe, you're absolutely right. neither side is seriously addressing this.
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Oct 7, 2012 12:00pm EDT
about the math for this. and paul ryan said look, the math takes too long. well, mitt romney's solution, he just decided there was not math involved in this problem. and that is absolutely crazy, the only thing he outlined in the budget, that he would cut is big bird. he has taken to sesame street and let wall street run wild. >> if you impose this debt on future generations, and big bird, i can tell you as the father of three children grown now, but any father who has gone to a toy store knows that big bird is a pretty commercially successful. and whether or not we should subsidize it, and say it is not that big of a percentage of the budget, that is true, but every penny that you raise as a cut, seems to be sacred with this administration, and they can't cut it. and i think the american people understand this is a big election and a big choice. >> meanwhile, the big debate about the presidential debate has spilled into a second week. >> the president of the united states had 90 minutes. now, if he had done his homework and actually prepared and actually studied romney, why didn't he s
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Oct 9, 2012 3:00pm EDT
and telling us who is leading and right now obama and biden destroying romney and ryan. a very scientific poll. >> amazon has their own version of this game. they have a new map based on red and blue books americans are reading. top selling redbook, glenn beck's "coward." blue books, stephen colbert. >> of that pizza hut thing is only like mildly des truck stiff for democracy. we're talking about our favorite fake poll things. i have a classic example. this is from -- i do have -- yeah, okay. >> no, steve -- come here, have some more. >> is there a napkin? >> you don't eat on television. it's a hard and fast rule. >> that's what you always do. >> kornacki has got it all over. >> can you get a close up? >> it's gone. >> you look great. >> where is it? >> don't help him. >> thank you, mom. >> i have a story to tell. so before i got cupcake all over my face i was going to say the kids pick the president, the cupcakes pick the president. there was a small town a few years ago, one radio station in the town. they said if you are for bob dole, flush your toilet right now. then they waited a minute a
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Oct 11, 2012 5:30am EDT
professional cycling for life. >>> coming up, debate night in kentucky. vice president biden and romney running mate paul ryan head-to-head. plus, a wave of new swing state polls all within the margin of error. we'll knock it around with our "morning joe" crew. when we come back, we'll huddle around the water cooler to watch john stewart take on the media obsession with polls, like the one i just told you we'll be obsessing over at the top of the hour. "way too early" coming right back. [ fishing rod casting line, marching band playing ] [ male announcer ] the rhythm of life. [ whistle blowing ] where do you hear that beat? campbell's healthy request soup lets you hear it... in your heart. [ basketball bouncing ] heart healthy. great taste. mmm... [ male announcer ] sounds good. it's amazing what soup can do. yeah. yeah. then how'd i get this... [ voice of dennis ] ...allstate safe driving bonus check? what is that? so weird, right? my agent, tom, said... [ voice of dennis ] ...only allstate sends you a bonus check for every six months you're accident-free... ...but i'm a woman. maybe it's a mi
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Oct 9, 2012 9:00am EDT
is quite frankly studying up on congressman ryan's positions on the issues. and governor romney has embra d embraceded everything i can say. i don't want to say anything in the debate that's not completely accurate. >> two of them are going to be seated and that does change sort of how candidates interact. trust me, spirit over the years has shown that. it's about 60 hours until the first and only vice presidential debate. expectations are now a little bit higher and it's paul ryan's first debate. it seems ryan is down there, it's more debate boot camp. he's done quite a few mock debates, has he not? >> where do you go to aid and reslacks, but also to prepare for the bickest 90 minutes of their life. you're bound to hear some debiting going on from table to table. the campaign is describing this as a day of debate prep. which don't know if the former debate partner will be down here helping him go through notes and things they feel like they may be able to improve on. but in the last new days, paul ryan has been asked about his own etake on the debate. you heard him say that he expects t
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Oct 9, 2012 6:00am EDT
said, joe biden will sell barack obama, but paul ryan has to sell mitt romney. you can't really sell paul ryan, right? so he has to -- it's going to be interesting to see how well he does that. i think we agree that joe biden will do his job, will go in and will explain all those crucial moments of the obama presidency and how things worked out and what a great guy he is. >> so joe biden, i agree will do his job. joe, do you think that paul ryan will be allowed to do his job? because i think the problem has been that from the moment he was chosen, they then were hiding his signature elements. >> well, paul ryan's not the president. and i think mitt romney said it clearly, i'm the president, paul ryan -- >> so he won't be allowed to do his job? >> no more than somebody you hire as a production assistant is going to tell you what to say on the air. >> well, i will say, he sounds really almost -- he chose his youth when he said mitt romney is the president, and therefore i believe. >> who is he? why was he chosen? because he has incredible, brave ideas. >> hold on. so -- >> at a time wh
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Oct 8, 2012 9:00am EDT
of opportunities with the ryan budget. the challenge for the president is he didn't take, didn't hold mitt romney to his positions. he can hold paul ryan to his positions, vice president can hold him to his positions without, you know, being seen as overly aggressive. needs smiles and jokes as he does it. that is a target-rich environment and i think he should take the targets. >> what kind of vibe do you expect? >> aggressive biden. >> shameless plugs? >> i'm going to plug eli lake, all over this libya story. >> yes, he has. >> another one today on information that e-mails come paining about the security of the embassy there. he's a must read every day. >> security situation and all fingers point to the state department. >> i'm going to be original and plug dean progress at 150,000 -- 160,000 followers and hoping for to 0,000. >> twitter? >> yes. i'm on twitter. on twitter. >> help you with the plug. >> issues week of "the washington post" every day we're doing a big take-out two pages on the differences between the candidates on the issues. >> today is? >> economy. >> thank you very much. that'
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Oct 8, 2012 6:00am EDT
as mitt romney. it's really on medicare especially, it's the ryan policies that obama is running against. and then lastly, i think what ryan and biden are defined by in a lot of ways and for biden, that's partially hit his gaffes. is he going to step in it? is there going to be some memorable sound bite from that debate? and ryan is known as the numbers guy. and the whole obama campaign now against romney and ryan is that the numbers on the republican side don't add up. so i think there's going to be pressure on ryan to explain the numbers or at least the obama folks are going to try and pressure ryan to explain the numbers. so these things usually don't matter. it's the undercard. but this time i think there could be a little more importance. >> i think you're exactly right. biden's actually a very good debater. he was very good during the democratic debates in '08. he beat barack obama every time. he is good in the debates, but boy, he can't afford to have an off night, can he? >> no. >> i mean, you talk about feeding into a narrative. i actually think paul ryan can break even and he'l
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Oct 10, 2012 6:00am EDT
, you know, mitt romney and congressman ryan that won't walk away from a whole host of policy decisions in the middle of the debate. >> understanding, though, the president has to sort of go after mitt romney and engage and fight with him a little bit on the debate stage. is that something you all are bringing to the table? >> well, look, i don't want to give away everything. obviously, we want a nice crowd for the debate. i think each candidate has to be very much on their toes. what i mean by na is president obama and vice president biden, for watching mitt romney and paul reasyan do as they've done throughout this campaign, which is walk away from what they talked about days earlier. we got a great example yesterday. mitt romney goes to "the des moines register" board saying there's nothing in his agenda to restrict a woman's right to choose, which we know after having said in debates he's happy to sign a legislation that ended all abortions. we understand there's a mitt romney you see pop up in public, particularly right now, and there's a mitt romney that believes a series of thing
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Oct 8, 2012 10:00am EDT
. you saw david axelrod, robert gibbs, democrats saying essentially mitt romney lied during the debate. now you handed joe biden that. you need to prosecute that against paul ryan. that's pressure on biden. a big moment. also, you have to imagine that the debate moderator pressing paul ryan more on the debates on the tax plan. this debate will matter more than the vp debate mattered in the past. >> to be serious, a lot of economic policies being put forth come from paul ryan so does it become more sense in the sense of the overall approach of both of the teams? >> that's a great point. paul ryan was tapped not because he was a popular congressman in the house but been for the past few years the intellectual leader of the republican party so his challenge not only to go up against biden's populace touch but an economic vision for the country while also debating biden. >> well, expectations game played a little bit. i'll give you a quick opportunity. what do you think, robert in who's the advantage to in this debate? >> i think if biden survives with a smile and amble, he'll do well. rya
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Oct 10, 2012 9:00am EDT
question though for paul ryan is he going to deny some of the things in his budget, that governor romney has -- is he going to be more specific than governor romney wrz in terms of how they're actually going to pay for the tax cuts. and the vice president, he doesn't need advise from me, but he just needs to be himself. he is a son of the middle class, who understands the middle class issues extremely well. >> why do you think he has developed this reputation for, shall we say misspeaking. this is five years ago, before he was vice president, quoting from an editorial that called him a gaff machine. >> vice president biden is just a very real guy, he loves people and he tells it like it is, and sometimes when you tell it like it is and you're not really carefully scripted, all of us say things. i can tell you though, that the real joe biden is extraordinarily grounded in what matters to real people. this is a guy who grew up, a son of a car salesman, you know, grew up in a near wilmington, delaware. a very hard worker, the people of delaware love him, they have seen him good and bad thro
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